Your OPINION of Soldat Weapons

[STM1993]

What is your opinion about the Soldat weapons? Just state the opinions,don't disagree with another person,as I don't want any flame on this simple thread. And I'm talking about original weapons. If you like to mention "realistic mode" and stuff,its ok.

The list of weapons:
Main:
Desert Eagles
HK MP5
Ak-74
Steyr AUG
Spas-12
Ruger 77
M79
Barret M82A1
FN Minimi
XM214 Minigun

Secondary:
USSOCOM
Combat Knife
Chainsaw
M72 LAW

Special:
Flamer
Rambo Bow
Flamed Arrows

==============My Opinion==============
Desert Eagles: High damage,normal accuracy,little bullets and fires quite quickly. A basic weapon for all players. The only time this weapon is weakened by its recoil is when it is realistic mode.

HK MP5: A high damage,rapid firing,average amount of bullets sub-machine gun. Its weakness is its poor accuracy. However,it is still a strong weapon and I would say it is also one of the best weapons,even for new players. It may seem to have few bullets due to the rate it fires,but it is actually more than enough to kill about 3 people when fired accurately.

Ak-74: A high damage and slow for a rapid firing weapon. Normally used by tapping. It has a slightly higher amount of bullets and has rather good accuracy. However,although it somewhat appeals to new players,in the stage when everyone is strong at Soldat,AK is not as good as it seems.

Steyr AUG: I would actually call the Steyr Aug my favourite gun. Fast,accurate,an average amount of bullets which makes it strong. In fact,I would say it is one of the best weapons,and it is suitable for new players. Sometimes used by tapping.

Spas-12: The shotgun. It is quite slow to fire in a few ways,has little bullets but reloads one bullet at a time,low accuracy but has great firepower. Making use of the low accuracy,users can actually aim up and fire over a hill to hit someone instead of having to stand and shoot or rush up and risk getting killed. This weapon is also good for boosting your speed when you're rushing to steal a flag ; notice if you fire the shotgun you will move back a little bit. Greatly weakened when in realistic mode.

Ruger 77: A rifle. This weapon is fatal if it is aimed nicely at one's head but two shots on the body. It is highly accurate,rather slow,extremely low in ammo. It is not reccommended to new players,as this weapon requires good accuracy. A good user of this can own with this advanced weapon and kill 2 people with maximum amount of bullets. Sometimes even 3.

M79: The grenade launcher. It is popular with new players. A one shot,can be fatal(depending on the victim's distance from the explosion radius) and considered quick to reload. Normally used with a USSOCOM. The M79 is a good weapon in any case,but it is greatly weakened when the user has too high bink and when online,you might not get a fatal kill when you are supposed to have one.

Barret M82A1: The most advanced weapon. Hardest to use,yet owning even the strongest of players when used extremely well. It is slow on firing and even reload,extremely accurate and fatal in one shot. Best used for accuracy when not moving. Much better in accuracy when crouching. Almost perfect when lying down on the ground. This is because the barret has a scope to zoom in and out. One of the best weapons of Soldat.

FN Minimi: Very simillar to the AK,just more accurate,moving causing it to be less accurate,less damage and hold more bullets. Mostly used by tapping. It is slow to reload.

XM214 Minigun: The "junk weapon" as I would call it. New players think it is the best weapon just because of many games making miniguns seem goddly and also for the reason that it is at the bottom of the weapon menu. It is the most rapid,average damage,accurate bullets but extremely poor aiming accuracy,extremely slow reload and causes a huge deal of recoil. Notice when used,the user will be pushed ack a little. Since bullets can bounce on walls,miniguns are,if ever used,commonly on tunnels,especially the super narrow ones. And due to its "push-back",people also use to rush over to another person's base and steal the flag. However,no matter what it is used for and so on,minigun is not goddly in Soldat ; in fact it is the most useless weapon and most servers opt minigun out from the weapon menu.

USSOCOM: A 12 shot pistol wih poor accuracy but damage that is simillar to that of the desert eagles. Fast weapon.

Combat Knife: The most common secondary weapon. Although it seems weak because new players think it is taken out only to stab,it is in fact goddly ; You can throw the knife and kill the opponent from quite a distance. However,throwing a knife needs to be held down for longer distance and more damage. Now who says of all secondary weapons,knife is the worst? well,it isn't unless you say "bots",who only know how to stab.

Chainsaw: Advanced Secondary weapon. Few people have perfected the skill of using the chainsaw,for you have to go close to kill. Basically fatal weapon. But online,it is weakened as sometimes,even after cutting,one does not get killed!!! And the strange thing in realistic mode is that when you saw your chainsaw goes up automatically. How come chainsaws have recoil?!! XD

M72 LAW: Another advanced secondary weapon. Believed to be goddly for new players,but they are wrong in a few ways again. No,to their dismay,the M72 LAW is hard to aim and rather slow. But it can still do a few good kills to a skilled player,as it is like an artiellery weapon version of the M79.

Flamer: Seems goddly eh? Yes in a way,no in a way. It burns the victim for a while and is high in damage. It has a limited range but it fires very quickly. No,shooting a person with a flamer won't make him explode. Online it is rather poor as the flamer's limited range makes it poorer and due to ping,the flamer might not kill when its supposed to,and you might not even be able to see the flame!

Rambo Bow: Nothing to say

Flamed Arrows: Nothing to say

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[Platinum Wordsmith]

well... i have a few bones to pick with what you say about quite a number of weapons... These are my oppinions, yet are based on experience.

Desert Eagles: Fantastic weapons, for "advanced" players... seriously, i do not reccomend a noob try them, they are fantastic if you can aim them yet they take a lot of practise, the curve makes for a fantastic weapon and the damage is somewhat irritating, some people will find that their bullets do not register and hence the deagles will often take 6 shots instead of the hopeful 3 or 4, good damage, good reload, good firing speed, my favourite weapons.

HK MP5: Noob friendly, for basic users, easy to aim, the aim is infact accurate if you learn how to use it properly, often used by firing in short bursts, it almost appears as if you were not firing it in bursts at all. Deadly in close-range and a brilliant and fun auto.

AK 47: well... what can i say about the ak, it is the only auto i haven't taken time to learn, it is the only auto that i don't use at a fairly high rank... It's incredibly similar to the FN Minimi and i would choose the minimi over it any day, it's slow, powerful and does a lot of damage if you learn how to use it, not so much for the new players, if you ever want to learn how to aim, use the hk mp5, it gives you basic skills.

Steyr Aug: love it... fast, powerful, fast... did i mention that it's fast and it can take down any auto faster then anything else, even from a range it does damage. Perfect weapon, not extremely easy to get good at, but definately not extremely hard, probably the weapon i am best at in clan wars as i need to take down multiple enemies with it, if i played wow i would say it's tankability ratio would be close to 100%... i can run in, take down so many people and escape with flag, constantly firing and reloading, it does both nice and quickly.

FN Minimi: Another auto that i fell in love with in the current soldat version 1.3.1... I am extremely accurate and deadly with this weapon, i reccomend it for many people and i choose it over the ak 47, it may be a slow reload but it sure is dam accurate when tapping and it does a hell load of damage.

Spas-12: classic noob-cannon shotgun... i used to call it that, before it became quite a powerful weapon, it is extremely useful and fun as hell to use, advanced weapon... good damage... reccomended for those who are willing to stick with a gun for a long time before they become good at it, mind you, even the most basic users can use it, just not cap, kill, cap, kill, return, cap, kill, with it.

Ruger 77: k... this gun... is very very noob friendly, it is one of the easiest weapons to be good with and one of the easiest weapons to aim. Infact, this weapon has acclaimed it's noob-cannon status in 1.3.1.

M79: what can i say, it's a noob cannon, but i sure do love it. Fantastic gun that does take some skill to use, easy to aim and does a lot of damage, also makes easy for capping and returning as you can always boost with it, or my favourite is to throw a nade onto the ground, then jump over it and shoot it with the m79, it makes for a super-speed boost and makes you fly quite far, and quite fast. I would ofcourse reccomend learning to boost with it first.

Barret M82A1: Noob cannon alert... no but seriously, hate this weapon if the person is good at it, if a noob uses it, i can take them out. A good player with it is almost unstoppable if he's got his soccom to back him up, as long ofcourse that he is a "running baz" which basically means it is a barret user that runs whilst firing, he doesn't have to prone or crouch to shoot and he doesn't camp. This takes quite a long time to master.

USSOCOM: Fantastic weapon, i am a member of a clan called "pistols" and they are an all soccom clan, yet they also allow desert eagles on occasion, we use the desert eagles as a secondary and the soccom as a primary. Basically this weapon is fantastic, accurate, good speed and takes some skill to use well. For those reasons, i love it, also it has similar damage to the desert eagles.

Combat Knife: well.... i'm one of australia's top ranked knife users, i'm a long range knifer as when i throw, it's a prediction as to where the person will be as i often throw from high in the air where the person cannot see me, or i use it as a quick throw when im running backwards, firing my deagles.

M72 Law: very very interesting weapon, some clans like to use a barrage technique where one crouches, one prones, or two crouch and one prones and then they fire it randomly, aimed in the predicted direction of the enemy. It works well in clans wars, is very dangerous on maps like b2b if the law users are long time lawers... I myself was a fan of this in 1.2 when you could simply shoot it without having to hold it down, fantastic but now i am not so awesome with it, i spend my time using the soccom and knife.

Chainsaw: basically i only ever use this in saw duels, i am part of a saw clan and am quite a skilled sawer, not a huge fan of the weapon otherwise.


All weapons that i have not mentioned i would not really classify as suitable soldat weapons, no bonus weapons or the minigun have been mentioned as i have great dislike to all of them, i can ofcourse use them, except for the minigun, quite well yet i believe the only true weapons are the one's i have mentioned.

[Narodnik]

Originally Posted by Spy_The_Man1993

XM214 Minigun: The "junk weapon" as I would call it. New players think it is the best weapon just because of many games making miniguns seem goddly and also for the reason that it is at the bottom of the weapon menu. It is the most rapid,average damage,accurate bullets but extremely poor aiming accuracy,extremely slow reload and causes a huge deal of recoil. Notice when used,the user will be pushed ack a little. Since bullets can bounce on walls,miniguns are,if ever used,commonly on tunnels,especially the super narrow ones. And due to its "push-back",people also use to rush over to another person's base and steal the flag. However,no matter what it is used for and so on,minigun is not goddly in Soldat ; in fact it is the most useless weapon and most servers opt minigun out from the weapon menu.

Hehehe. For the skilled among us, it's quite a nifty weapon. Let me give you the greatest example of its use.

You are playing on B2b, the enemy has your flag, it's a stalemate.

Spawn with a M79 or Minigun. Then kill yourself, and spawn with the opposite. Grab the dropped gun with your secondary position. Now blow yourself up to the top of your base, and sit on the ledge while both guns reload. Now, launch yourself off the ledge by a backflip and hold in the minigun fire. Once it takes over, fly across the map, using jetpack, however leave it full near the end, as you'll solely use that when reloading your minigun. If you are skilled, you can make it across to the other team's base, without anyone knowing of your presence. Then you simply have to drop down for a one hit kill with the m79.

It's the best trick, and it feels great to pull it off.

[Platinum Wordsmith]

so basically you're saying fly over the top of the map? which is against the rules in many competitions, and most people advise against it... it's also very easy to do with nades or an m79

[Robo]

We should merge all oppinions and add it to the guides section =D

[Narodnik]

Originally Posted by Platinum Wordsmith

so basically you're saying fly over the top of the map? which is against the rules in many competitions, and most people advise against it... it's also very easy to do with nades or an m79

Yeah, I'm just talking about doing it in public servers for a bit of fun.

And I think you'd find it difficult to fly from one side to the other without anyone seeing you, only using nades and an m79.

[Platinum Wordsmith]

i've done it many times with nades without being seen... m79 is even easier... i just like the effect of nades + m79 boost. super boost ;)

[STM1993]

I have seen the effects of grenades/m79 pushing you forward,even though I didn't do the boost. It is very fast,faster than a minigun.

[Narodnik]

Yes, I realise that.

But I am talking about flying over the whole map, b2b, which is an extremely long distance. As fair as I know/knew, it wasn't possible with m79 and nades alone.

My method involves the use of the m79, read what I wrote, and what it relates to, don't simply draw your own conclusions.

[Platinum Wordsmith]

yes, i know what you are talking about, and it can be done with both nades or an m79.... i drew my conclusions from what i read, i did not assume anything, it was all based on what i read.